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		<title>By: Colorado legistlature helps insurers by mandating wasteful preventive care coverage &#124; www.statehousecall.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado legistlature helps insurers by mandating wasteful preventive care coverage &#124; www.statehousecall.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as John Goodman notes, an article last year in Health Affairs says: Over the four decades since cost-effectiveness [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Myth 8. Spending more on prevention and “wellness” will enable us to spend less on medical care while improving health. &#171; AAPS News of the Day</title>
		<link>http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/an-obituary/comment-page-1/#comment-43824</link>
		<dc:creator>Myth 8. Spending more on prevention and “wellness” will enable us to spend less on medical care while improving health. &#171; AAPS News of the Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For the rationale of achieving cost control by this means, it is time to write an obituary, writes John Goodman. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Reply to John Baden]

John B.,

I think you are right. But if John G. is right too, about medical cost effectiveness as we both think he is, AND if he is effective in getting the word out, then the cost savings to private or publicly provided insurance, from streamlining the care package, will, IF AND AS his message is understood, begin to outweigh in buyers/voters eyes, the current &quot;feel good&quot; effects of all the unnecessary preventive care built into so many plans now. The world will, with education like his, become a better place.

What you and I have done for so long, and John G. too, is to help make the real world safer for people proposing more efficient, honest and principled solutions. And he&#039;s doing it, even as he fights the bad information we have all operated with for decades. You and I have been there and done that, sometimes alongside John G., as any good policy analyst does daily. Agreed?

Yet what you said does help explain why we get some of the bad proposals out there--smart or instinctive politicians, but short-sighted and typically lacking the patience and perseverance to lead in the way as John G. is doing.</description>
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<p>John B.,</p>
<p>I think you are right. But if John G. is right too, about medical cost effectiveness as we both think he is, AND if he is effective in getting the word out, then the cost savings to private or publicly provided insurance, from streamlining the care package, will, IF AND AS his message is understood, begin to outweigh in buyers/voters eyes, the current &#8220;feel good&#8221; effects of all the unnecessary preventive care built into so many plans now. The world will, with education like his, become a better place.</p>
<p>What you and I have done for so long, and John G. too, is to help make the real world safer for people proposing more efficient, honest and principled solutions. And he&#8217;s doing it, even as he fights the bad information we have all operated with for decades. You and I have been there and done that, sometimes alongside John G., as any good policy analyst does daily. Agreed?</p>
<p>Yet what you said does help explain why we get some of the bad proposals out there&#8211;smart or instinctive politicians, but short-sighted and typically lacking the patience and perseverance to lead in the way as John G. is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: To Screen or Not to Screen &#124; Sean Khozin, MD, MPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>To Screen or Not to Screen &#124; Sean Khozin, MD, MPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the actor, but the &#8220;father of health savings accounts&#8221;), writes the following on his blog: Does preventive care save lives? Of course. Does it save money for some patients? Definitely. But [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Baden</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Does preventive care save lives? Of course. Does it save money for some patients? Definitely. But the cost of screening healthy patients outweighs the savings on patients whose diseases are caught in their early stages. Preventive medicine is desirable. But there&#039;s no free lunch.”

I have no doubt you’re correct. However, consider the Park Service’s “Golden Age Passport”. It gives lifetime admission to the entire Park system for $10! Is the Park Service stupid? Strategic?

I’d bet the latter. What are the attributes of those who buy the Passports? Not random for sure. Consider correlates with voting patterns. I’d guess the same variables hold for those using preventative care and think it’s likely that this has political implications highly relevant to health care reform.

While efficiency may be a Schelling point, it’s hard to mobilize people to march under its banner.

Just a random thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Does preventive care save lives? Of course. Does it save money for some patients? Definitely. But the cost of screening healthy patients outweighs the savings on patients whose diseases are caught in their early stages. Preventive medicine is desirable. But there&#8217;s no free lunch.”</p>
<p>I have no doubt you’re correct. However, consider the Park Service’s “Golden Age Passport”. It gives lifetime admission to the entire Park system for $10! Is the Park Service stupid? Strategic?</p>
<p>I’d bet the latter. What are the attributes of those who buy the Passports? Not random for sure. Consider correlates with voting patterns. I’d guess the same variables hold for those using preventative care and think it’s likely that this has political implications highly relevant to health care reform.</p>
<p>While efficiency may be a Schelling point, it’s hard to mobilize people to march under its banner.</p>
<p>Just a random thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Antonovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Antonovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STILL NEED TESTING. NOT ALWAYS APPARENT THAT ONE HAS AN ILLNESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STILL NEED TESTING. NOT ALWAYS APPARENT THAT ONE HAS AN ILLNESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny Cash lip syncing his guitar? Say it aint so Johnny.</description>
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		<title>By: Uwe Reinhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uwe Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall that the National Caner Institute in the early 1990s came out with a study reporting that mammograms for women under age 50 (or was it 40?) were not cost-effective in the sense John describes it. Therefore, the Clinton&#039;s excluded mammograms for women under 50 (40?) from the mandated benefit package in the Clinton plan, although that plan (I still have a copy) explicitly stated up front that nothing in the plan would prevent any American from buying any health service they wanted (but not in the benefit package)with their own money.

Whereupon then Republican Senatorial candidate Bernadine Healy, M.D., just retired as head of the NIH, published an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal accusing the Clintons of proposing to ration health care. Because the Wall Street Journal editorial page publishes generally only views with which the editors agree, I presume that they bought into that argument.

And that explains why it is so hard to make sensible health policy in this country and why we spend as if there&#039;s no tomorrow. Note that AdvaMed and Pharma succeeded in having the language in the stimulus bill this month changed from &quot;comparative effectiveness analysis&quot; (which might include a consideration of costs) to merely &quot;comparative clinical effectiveness analysis,&quot; to preclude cost-effectiveness analysis. To them John Goodman sounds like a Communist.

More importantly, though, I do not believe that Johnny Cash was actually playing his guitar in the piece John posted. You can&#039;t run your hand up and down the board so casually the way he does and get sensible tones out of a guitar. There must be a law against that kind of deception. Might this be the basis for a class action suit, to get our money back on the CDs we bought? 

Uwe Reinhardt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall that the National Caner Institute in the early 1990s came out with a study reporting that mammograms for women under age 50 (or was it 40?) were not cost-effective in the sense John describes it. Therefore, the Clinton&#8217;s excluded mammograms for women under 50 (40?) from the mandated benefit package in the Clinton plan, although that plan (I still have a copy) explicitly stated up front that nothing in the plan would prevent any American from buying any health service they wanted (but not in the benefit package)with their own money.</p>
<p>Whereupon then Republican Senatorial candidate Bernadine Healy, M.D., just retired as head of the NIH, published an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal accusing the Clintons of proposing to ration health care. Because the Wall Street Journal editorial page publishes generally only views with which the editors agree, I presume that they bought into that argument.</p>
<p>And that explains why it is so hard to make sensible health policy in this country and why we spend as if there&#8217;s no tomorrow. Note that AdvaMed and Pharma succeeded in having the language in the stimulus bill this month changed from &#8220;comparative effectiveness analysis&#8221; (which might include a consideration of costs) to merely &#8220;comparative clinical effectiveness analysis,&#8221; to preclude cost-effectiveness analysis. To them John Goodman sounds like a Communist.</p>
<p>More importantly, though, I do not believe that Johnny Cash was actually playing his guitar in the piece John posted. You can&#8217;t run your hand up and down the board so casually the way he does and get sensible tones out of a guitar. There must be a law against that kind of deception. Might this be the basis for a class action suit, to get our money back on the CDs we bought? </p>
<p>Uwe Reinhardt</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest Huggins</title>
		<link>http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/an-obituary/comment-page-1/#comment-40707</link>
		<dc:creator>Forrest Huggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot one thing in your article.  Prevention is no fun. 

Cigarettes: Chill you out.

Beer: You can have a daily six pack without working out.  

Cheeseburgers: Taste better than veggie burgers

Maybe Obama can just get us a Huey Lewis &quot;New Drug.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot one thing in your article.  Prevention is no fun. </p>
<p>Cigarettes: Chill you out.</p>
<p>Beer: You can have a daily six pack without working out.  </p>
<p>Cheeseburgers: Taste better than veggie burgers</p>
<p>Maybe Obama can just get us a Huey Lewis &#8220;New Drug.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[reply to Marcy Z.]

A major difference between a private and a public system is that in a private system they develop profitable options that are appealing, but not cost effective. Annual physicals are one of those things. It&#039;s something you can see and use right away. Marketers feel that if people aren&#039;t &quot;using&quot; their plan, they won&#039;t see the value in it.</description>
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<p>A major difference between a private and a public system is that in a private system they develop profitable options that are appealing, but not cost effective. Annual physicals are one of those things. It&#8217;s something you can see and use right away. Marketers feel that if people aren&#8217;t &#8220;using&#8221; their plan, they won&#8217;t see the value in it.</p>
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