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	<title>Comments on: Ignorance About the Market for Individual Health Insurance Impedes Reform</title>
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		<title>By: ChristineWithRegence</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristineWithRegence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all the talk about health care reform, I don&#039;t feel like there&#039;s enough discussion about understanding the real costs of health care. Why don&#039;t we ever know the costs of health care procedures and treatments? ?&quot; I got a kick out of this fun, short video. Check it out. It makes you wonder why our health care system is set up the way it is.
www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all the talk about health care reform, I don&#8217;t feel like there&#8217;s enough discussion about understanding the real costs of health care. Why don&#8217;t we ever know the costs of health care procedures and treatments? ?&#8221; I got a kick out of this fun, short video. Check it out. It makes you wonder why our health care system is set up the way it is.<br />
<a href="http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatstherealcost.org/45secondstoshare</a></p>
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		<title>By: John R. Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>John R. Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that small-group coverage will ever make sense, because neither the employer, employee, carrier, or agent know who will be working for the small firm 12 months from now.  So, group health is re-written annually.  It cannot be guaranteed renewable.  As long as the Internal Revenue Code artificially induces group coverage versus individual coverage, people will fall through the cracks and we&#039;ll need high-risk pools and the like to address the problem.  If the government stopped the discrimination, group benefits might not disappear, but employers would have to offer guaranteed renewable, post-employment, continuation coverage if they chose to offer group benefits, because they would have to &quot;compete&quot; with employees&#039; own coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that small-group coverage will ever make sense, because neither the employer, employee, carrier, or agent know who will be working for the small firm 12 months from now.  So, group health is re-written annually.  It cannot be guaranteed renewable.  As long as the Internal Revenue Code artificially induces group coverage versus individual coverage, people will fall through the cracks and we&#8217;ll need high-risk pools and the like to address the problem.  If the government stopped the discrimination, group benefits might not disappear, but employers would have to offer guaranteed renewable, post-employment, continuation coverage if they chose to offer group benefits, because they would have to &#8220;compete&#8221; with employees&#8217; own coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart I.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the question is, why does NCPA cover its own employees?

I understand that there is no state income tax in Texas, so the maximum tax benefit for employer-sponsored coverage is around 43%.  Granted, a 43% discount seems a formidable incentive, except:

(1) Small company plans use modified community rating, in that neither sex nor health status can be used to set individual rates.  Although the employers themselves are rated, my understanding is that Texas has a 1.67-to-1 band around rates that can be charged to small companies.

(2) Many of the articles presented here argue that community rated coverage-- even modified-- is at least twice as expensive as that individual coverage.  

Since employer-sponsored coverage is community rated, individual coverage should be available at a 50+ percent discount relative to employer coverage.  So wouldn&#039;t it follow that employees would be better off taking benefits in the form of taxable income, and forgoing the 43% tax discount in favor of a 50%-plus savings on individual coverage?

What are the going rates for individual and small-company coverage in Texas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the question is, why does NCPA cover its own employees?</p>
<p>I understand that there is no state income tax in Texas, so the maximum tax benefit for employer-sponsored coverage is around 43%.  Granted, a 43% discount seems a formidable incentive, except:</p>
<p>(1) Small company plans use modified community rating, in that neither sex nor health status can be used to set individual rates.  Although the employers themselves are rated, my understanding is that Texas has a 1.67-to-1 band around rates that can be charged to small companies.</p>
<p>(2) Many of the articles presented here argue that community rated coverage&#8211; even modified&#8211; is at least twice as expensive as that individual coverage.  </p>
<p>Since employer-sponsored coverage is community rated, individual coverage should be available at a 50+ percent discount relative to employer coverage.  So wouldn&#8217;t it follow that employees would be better off taking benefits in the form of taxable income, and forgoing the 43% tax discount in favor of a 50%-plus savings on individual coverage?</p>
<p>What are the going rates for individual and small-company coverage in Texas?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other point: individual insurance is portable; group insurance is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other point: individual insurance is portable; group insurance is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry C.</title>
		<link>http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/ignorance-about-the-market-for-individual-health-insurance-impedes-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-48509</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting on the difference between individual and group insurance. Dr. Gorman&#039;s point of view is always refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting on the difference between individual and group insurance. Dr. Gorman&#8217;s point of view is always refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon Herrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most people beyond the age of 25 understand they can get health coverage on their own. But the demand is not as great as public health advocates like to believe.  

A former college roommate of mine wanted to provide subsidized coverage to his workers at an apartment complex he owned. After the costs became unaffordable, he discovered less than one-third of his workers were even participating. Most his employees were not willing to pay their small share of the premiums. The only employees to sign up were the ones with pre-existing conditions.  They were the only ones who considered his health insurance plan a good buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people beyond the age of 25 understand they can get health coverage on their own. But the demand is not as great as public health advocates like to believe.  </p>
<p>A former college roommate of mine wanted to provide subsidized coverage to his workers at an apartment complex he owned. After the costs became unaffordable, he discovered less than one-third of his workers were even participating. Most his employees were not willing to pay their small share of the premiums. The only employees to sign up were the ones with pre-existing conditions.  They were the only ones who considered his health insurance plan a good buy.</p>
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		<title>By: hoads</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &quot;pooling risks&quot; through employer based health insurance is a lie.  Insurance companies routinely raise health insurance premiums of employers at will without regard to the company&#039;s health consumption profile.  Here&#039;s an article about the Harris County Medical Society whose insurance premiums were increased 23% in one year.  The members demanded the benefits payout receipts from the Blue Cross and found only 51% of premiums paid were paid out in benefits.  http://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=6699

Health insurers have essentially enjoyed charging &quot;commercial rates&quot; to employers and is why they don&#039;t want to see an end to employer based health insurance.

The whole &quot;risk pooling&quot; is ridiculous anyway.  Why shouldn&#039;t health insurers be required to compete for customers like every other type of insurance?  And why doesn&#039;t even the Republican HCP demand so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;pooling risks&#8221; through employer based health insurance is a lie.  Insurance companies routinely raise health insurance premiums of employers at will without regard to the company&#8217;s health consumption profile.  Here&#8217;s an article about the Harris County Medical Society whose insurance premiums were increased 23% in one year.  The members demanded the benefits payout receipts from the Blue Cross and found only 51% of premiums paid were paid out in benefits.  <a href="http://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=6699" rel="nofollow">http://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=6699</a></p>
<p>Health insurers have essentially enjoyed charging &#8220;commercial rates&#8221; to employers and is why they don&#8217;t want to see an end to employer based health insurance.</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;risk pooling&#8221; is ridiculous anyway.  Why shouldn&#8217;t health insurers be required to compete for customers like every other type of insurance?  And why doesn&#8217;t even the Republican HCP demand so?</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy everything Linda Gorman writes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy everything Linda Gorman writes.</p>
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